What ABout The Life Insurance?

[Kathy]

Does anyone know the real story behind Elvis's life insurance? Is it
true that no one collected it? My thoughts on this matter are that if
its true, that it wasn't cashed in, could it be that the company who
held the policy suspected that Elvis's death was a suicide? and by
fighting this, Graceland would have had to make the Autopsy public?

Another thing I can't figure out, is that there was a nurse on duty at
Graceland when Elvis died. Didn't she give someone some more pills to
give to Elvis? and didn't the nurse keep track of the pills Elvis was
givin each time, to make sure there wouldn't be a reaction to a certain
drug if combined with another? something like a log sheet maybe? Didn't
they find codene in Elvis's body at the time of death? and it was a
known fact that he was allergic to this? why would it even be in with
his other med's if he wasn't suppose to have it? I don't know very many
people that hang on to Medicines that they have a reaction to, they are
dumped down the toilet or something.

These are just a few of the things that bother me in regard to Elvis's
death. I don't like to ask this, but will. Does anyone out there think
that its possible Elvis commited suicide?

[I***@aol.com]

Post by Kathy
Does anyone know the real story behind Elvis's life insurance? Is it
true that no one collected it? My thoughts on this matter are that if
its true, that it wasn't cashed in, could it be that the company who
held the policy suspected that Elvis's death was a suicide? and by
fighting this, Graceland would have had to make the Autopsy public?
Another thing I can't figure out, is that there was a nurse on duty at
Graceland when Elvis died. Didn't she give someone some more pills to
give to Elvis? and didn't the nurse keep track of the pills Elvis was
givin each time, to make sure there wouldn't be a reaction to a certain
drug if combined with another? something like a log sheet maybe? Didn't
they find codene in Elvis's body at the time of death? and it was a
known fact that he was allergic to this? why would it even be in with
his other med's if he wasn't suppose to have it? I don't know very many
people that hang on to Medicines that they have a reaction to, they are
dumped down the toilet or something.
These are just a few of the things that bother me in regard to Elvis's
death. I don't like to ask this, but will. Does anyone out there think
that its possible Elvis commited suicide?

Why should it be anybody's business if Elvis' policy was cashed in or
not? Elvis wouldn't have committed suicide with Lisa in the house.
Hell, I don't think Elvis would have committed suicide period. From
all reports, he seemed to be upbeat and looking forward to the tour
that was starting that day.

It's been pretty well documented that the codeine was given to him by
his dentist late the night before. Perhaps he wasn't aware that Elvis
shouldn't have it, but in any event, it wasn't part of the packet the
nurse sent up.

Garry

[Colin B]

Post by I***@aol.com
Why should it be anybody's business if Elvis' policy was cashed in or
not? Elvis wouldn't have committed suicide with Lisa in the house.
Hell, I don't think Elvis would have committed suicide period.
Garry

Well, I agree about there being a poor case for suicide.

But if the insurance policy wasn't cashed in, it's a strange thing to have
happened.

A little good investigative journalism could soon establish whether such a
policy
existed and whether it was claimed or not.

But we don't get much of that when it comes to Elvis, do we ?

Colin B

[Kathy]

Post by Kathy
Does anyone know the real story behind Elvis's life insurance? Is it
true that no one collected it? My thoughts on this matter are that if
its true, that it wasn't cashed in, could it be that the company who
held the policy suspected that Elvis's death was a suicide? and by
fighting this, Graceland would have had to make the Autopsy public?
Another thing I can't figure out, is that there was a nurse on duty at
Graceland when Elvis died. Didn't she give someone some more pills to
give to Elvis? and didn't the nurse keep track of the pills Elvis was
givin each time, to make sure there wouldn't be a reaction to a certain
drug if combined with another? something like a log sheet maybe? Didn't
they find codene in Elvis's body at the time of death? and it was a
known fact that he was allergic to this? why would it even be in with
his other med's if he wasn't suppose to have it? I don't know very many
people that hang on to Medicines that they have a reaction to, they are
dumped down the toilet or something.
These are just a few of the things that bother me in regard to Elvis's
death. I don't like to ask this, but will. Does anyone out there think
that its possible Elvis commited suicide?

I didn't ask, if it was anyones business, now did I? So Elvis didn't
know he was allergic to Codene when he went to the Dentist? Codene will
make you some what tired,hmmm..
but Elvis could play ball, and play the piano. If some one is in so
much pain that he requires Codene to help ease it, they normally will
rest, not play! And further more, most people will make it known to
their Dentist, or any other Dr. what they are allergic to. This could
be a case for a law suit on the Dentist, for not checking Elvis's
medical chart, before prescribing Codene!! Further more, if you are
going to have an allergic reaction to a drug, it will happen within
about the first half hour of taking it.

None of us can judge the state of mind of another! Do you think that
someone who is to the point of Suicide is thinking logically? Elvis
could have been past the point of no return. We don't know this, and
never will. Do I need to remind you, that Elvis was a human being just
like the rest of us? Its not so far fetched,to think that Elvis could
have taken his own life!

Elvis's Dad would have claimed the life insurance money if he were able
to by law. I don't care how much money you have, your not going to let
something go, that your intitled to. Elvis paid for the policy, they
had every right to the money!Thats what a life insurance policy is for!
In fact if it is due to you, you have to take it, I know this to be a
fact! I was contacted last March in regard to a Policy that was owed to
my mom, after her Dad had passed away 15 years ago.She never knew about
the policy. It was found in some kind of an Audit, and we filled out
the paerwork, and they sent her a check. Books have to be cleared!

[marty]

Here's why nonsense an rumors start about Elvis--SPECULATION AND UNINFORMED
OPINIONS.

First off, Dr. Hofman, his dentist of many years, knew what Elvis was
taking. He had prescribed Codeine to him many times with no adverse after
effect to Elvis. Dr. Hofman was a good man and a good dentist.

Elvis didn't commit suicide, that's something that Goldman and David used as
hook for their book, "The Last 24 Hours.

I can assure you that if Elvis was going to commit suicide, he would have
been fully dressed in some of his sharpest clothes and he surely would not
have been sitting on the damn toilet with his pants down around his ankles.

Do yourselves a favor and drop the subject, it has been covered here ad
nauseum for a number of years and it's stupid as are some of the comments.

Marty

Post by Kathy

Post by Kathy
Does anyone know the real story behind Elvis's life insurance? Is it
true that no one collected it? My thoughts on this matter are that if
its true, that it wasn't cashed in, could it be that the company who
held the policy suspected that Elvis's death was a suicide? and by
fighting this, Graceland would have had to make the Autopsy public?
Another thing I can't figure out, is that there was a nurse on duty at
Graceland when Elvis died. Didn't she give someone some more pills to
give to Elvis? and didn't the nurse keep track of the pills Elvis was
givin each time, to make sure there wouldn't be a reaction to a certain
drug if combined with another? something like a log sheet maybe? Didn't
they find codene in Elvis's body at the time of death? and it was a
known fact that he was allergic to this? why would it even be in with
his other med's if he wasn't suppose to have it? I don't know very many
people that hang on to Medicines that they have a reaction to, they are
dumped down the toilet or something.
These are just a few of the things that bother me in regard to Elvis's
death. I don't like to ask this, but will. Does anyone out there think
that its possible Elvis commited suicide?

I didn't ask, if it was anyones business, now did I? So Elvis didn't
know he was allergic to Codene when he went to the Dentist? Codene will
make you some what tired,hmmm..
but Elvis could play ball, and play the piano. If some one is in so
much pain that he requires Codene to help ease it, they normally will
rest, not play! And further more, most people will make it known to
their Dentist, or any other Dr. what they are allergic to. This could
be a case for a law suit on the Dentist, for not checking Elvis's
medical chart, before prescribing Codene!! Further more, if you are
going to have an allergic reaction to a drug, it will happen within
about the first half hour of taking it.
None of us can judge the state of mind of another! Do you think that
someone who is to the point of Suicide is thinking logically? Elvis
could have been past the point of no return. We don't know this, and
never will. Do I need to remind you, that Elvis was a human being just
like the rest of us? Its not so far fetched,to think that Elvis could
have taken his own life!
Elvis's Dad would have claimed the life insurance money if he were able
to by law. I don't care how much money you have, your not going to let
something go, that your intitled to. Elvis paid for the policy, they
had every right to the money!Thats what a life insurance policy is for!
In fact if it is due to you, you have to take it, I know this to be a
fact! I was contacted last March in regard to a Policy that was owed to
my mom, after her Dad had passed away 15 years ago.She never knew about
the policy. It was found in some kind of an Audit, and we filled out
the paerwork, and they sent her a check. Books have to be cleared!

[squidamned]

common sense agrees.. no one wants to be found on the crapper.



yiff.

Post by marty
Here's why nonsense an rumors start about Elvis--SPECULATION AND UNINFORMED
OPINIONS.
First off, Dr. Hofman, his dentist of many years, knew what Elvis was
taking. He had prescribed Codeine to him many times with no adverse after
effect to Elvis. Dr. Hofman was a good man and a good dentist.
Elvis didn't commit suicide, that's something that Goldman and David used as
hook for their book, "The Last 24 Hours.
I can assure you that if Elvis was going to commit suicide, he would have
been fully dressed in some of his sharpest clothes and he surely would not
have been sitting on the damn toilet with his pants down around his ankles.
Do yourselves a favor and drop the subject, it has been covered here ad
nauseum for a number of years and it's stupid as are some of the comments.
Marty

Post by Kathy

Post by Kathy
Does anyone know the real story behind Elvis's life insurance? Is it
true that no one collected it? My thoughts on this matter are that if
its true, that it wasn't cashed in, could it be that the company who
held the policy suspected that Elvis's death was a suicide? and by
fighting this, Graceland would have had to make the Autopsy public?
Another thing I can't figure out, is that there was a nurse on duty

at

Post by Kathy

Post by Kathy
Graceland when Elvis died. Didn't she give someone some more pills to
give to Elvis? and didn't the nurse keep track of the pills Elvis was
givin each time, to make sure there wouldn't be a reaction to a

certain

Post by Kathy

Post by Kathy
drug if combined with another? something like a log sheet maybe?

Didn't

Post by Kathy

Post by Kathy
they find codene in Elvis's body at the time of death? and it was a
known fact that he was allergic to this? why would it even be in with
his other med's if he wasn't suppose to have it? I don't know very

many

Post by Kathy

Post by Kathy
people that hang on to Medicines that they have a reaction to, they

are

Post by Kathy

Post by Kathy
dumped down the toilet or something.
These are just a few of the things that bother me in regard to Elvis's
death. I don't like to ask this, but will. Does anyone out there think
that its possible Elvis commited suicide?

I didn't ask, if it was anyones business, now did I? So Elvis didn't
know he was allergic to Codene when he went to the Dentist? Codene will
make you some what tired,hmmm..
but Elvis could play ball, and play the piano. If some one is in so
much pain that he requires Codene to help ease it, they normally will
rest, not play! And further more, most people will make it known to
their Dentist, or any other Dr. what they are allergic to. This could
be a case for a law suit on the Dentist, for not checking Elvis's
medical chart, before prescribing Codene!! Further more, if you are
going to have an allergic reaction to a drug, it will happen within
about the first half hour of taking it.
None of us can judge the state of mind of another! Do you think that
someone who is to the point of Suicide is thinking logically? Elvis
could have been past the point of no return. We don't know this, and
never will. Do I need to remind you, that Elvis was a human being just
like the rest of us? Its not so far fetched,to think that Elvis could
have taken his own life!
Elvis's Dad would have claimed the life insurance money if he were able
to by law. I don't care how much money you have, your not going to let
something go, that your intitled to. Elvis paid for the policy, they
had every right to the money!Thats what a life insurance policy is for!
In fact if it is due to you, you have to take it, I know this to be a
fact! I was contacted last March in regard to a Policy that was owed to
my mom, after her Dad had passed away 15 years ago.She never knew about
the policy. It was found in some kind of an Audit, and we filled out
the paerwork, and they sent her a check. Books have to be cleared!

[Bob Cleveland]

Post by marty
Here's why nonsense an rumors start about Elvis--SPECULATION AND UNINFORMED
OPINIONS.
First off, Dr. Hofman, his dentist of many years, knew what Elvis was
taking. He had prescribed Codeine to him many times with no adverse after
effect to Elvis. Dr. Hofman was a good man and a good dentist.
Elvis didn't commit suicide, that's something that Goldman and David used as
hook for their book, "The Last 24 Hours.
I can assure you that if Elvis was going to commit suicide, he would have
been fully dressed in some of his sharpest clothes and he surely would not
have been sitting on the damn toilet with his pants down around his ankles.
Do yourselves a favor and drop the subject, it has been covered here ad
nauseum for a number of years and it's stupid as are some of the comments.
Marty

Post by Kathy

Post by Kathy
Does anyone know the real story behind Elvis's life insurance? Is it
true that no one collected it? My thoughts on this matter are that if
its true, that it wasn't cashed in, could it be that the company who
held the policy suspected that Elvis's death was a suicide? and by
fighting this, Graceland would have had to make the Autopsy public?
Another thing I can't figure out, is that there was a nurse on duty

at

Post by Kathy

Post by Kathy
Graceland when Elvis died. Didn't she give someone some more pills to
give to Elvis? and didn't the nurse keep track of the pills Elvis was
givin each time, to make sure there wouldn't be a reaction to a

certain

Post by Kathy

Post by Kathy
drug if combined with another? something like a log sheet maybe?

Didn't

Post by Kathy

Post by Kathy
they find codene in Elvis's body at the time of death? and it was a
known fact that he was allergic to this? why would it even be in with
his other med's if he wasn't suppose to have it? I don't know very

many

Post by Kathy

Post by Kathy
people that hang on to Medicines that they have a reaction to, they

are

Post by Kathy

Post by Kathy
dumped down the toilet or something.
These are just a few of the things that bother me in regard to Elvis's
death. I don't like to ask this, but will. Does anyone out there think
that its possible Elvis commited suicide?

I didn't ask, if it was anyones business, now did I? So Elvis didn't
know he was allergic to Codene when he went to the Dentist? Codene will
make you some what tired,hmmm..
but Elvis could play ball, and play the piano. If some one is in so
much pain that he requires Codene to help ease it, they normally will
rest, not play! And further more, most people will make it known to
their Dentist, or any other Dr. what they are allergic to. This could
be a case for a law suit on the Dentist, for not checking Elvis's
medical chart, before prescribing Codene!! Further more, if you are
going to have an allergic reaction to a drug, it will happen within
about the first half hour of taking it.
None of us can judge the state of mind of another! Do you think that
someone who is to the point of Suicide is thinking logically? Elvis
could have been past the point of no return. We don't know this, and
never will. Do I need to remind you, that Elvis was a human being just
like the rest of us? Its not so far fetched,to think that Elvis could
have taken his own life!
Elvis's Dad would have claimed the life insurance money if he were able
to by law. I don't care how much money you have, your not going to let
something go, that your intitled to. Elvis paid for the policy, they
had every right to the money!Thats what a life insurance policy is for!
In fact if it is due to you, you have to take it, I know this to be a
fact! I was contacted last March in regard to a Policy that was owed to
my mom, after her Dad had passed away 15 years ago.She never knew about
the policy. It was found in some kind of an Audit, and we filled out
the paerwork, and they sent her a check. Books have to be cleared!

And he wouldn't have been waiting to meet his maker thumbing through a book on karmasutra.

[Genie]

Post by Kathy
Does anyone know the real story behind Elvis's life insurance? Is it
true that no one collected it? My thoughts on this matter are that if
its true, that it wasn't cashed in, could it be that the company who
held the policy suspected that Elvis's death was a suicide? and by
fighting this, Graceland would have had to make the Autopsy public?
Another thing I can't figure out, is that there was a nurse on duty at
Graceland when Elvis died. Didn't she give someone some more pills to
give to Elvis? and didn't the nurse keep track of the pills Elvis was
givin each time, to make sure there wouldn't be a reaction to a certain
drug if combined with another? something like a log sheet maybe? Didn't
they find codene in Elvis's body at the time of death? and it was a
known fact that he was allergic to this? why would it even be in with
his other med's if he wasn't suppose to have it? I don't know very many
people that hang on to Medicines that they have a reaction to, they are
dumped down the toilet or something.
These are just a few of the things that bother me in regard to Elvis's
death. I don't like to ask this, but will. Does anyone out there think
that its possible Elvis commited suicide?

No Kathy, I don't feel any truth in the stories about Suicide.
There is a life insurance policy, but it has never been claimed. In
some ways, as wealthy as the Estate became, who needed to use it? Maybe
they considered it not all that important?
I think Elvis died from a severe allegic reaction to several Codiene
tablets given to him by the dentist. In that year, they were not up on
anaphylactic shock as they are these days.
He may have been sensitive to this medication, or even other
medications unknown to those
prescribing them for him.

[Gary D]

Actually, there was no indication of an allergic reaction to the codene
in the autopsy. It is a speculation by one of the authors of "The Death
Of Elvis". The Baptist Memorial chief of pathology dismissed it in the
same book and Marty has stated that Elvis took codene often, with no
allergic reaction. It seems logical that the insurance money was never
collected to avoid release of the autopsy findings. Insurance companies
are going to make damn sure a death like that is not suicide before
handing out the money and that would have meant a thourogh
investigation.

[Genie]

Post by Gary D
Actually, there was no indication of an allergic reaction to the codene
in the autopsy. It is a speculation by one of the authors of "The Death
Of Elvis". The Baptist Memorial chief of pathology dismissed it in the
same book and Marty has stated that Elvis took codene often, with no
allergic reaction. It seems logical that the insurance money was never
collected to avoid release of the autopsy findings. Insurance companies
are going to make damn sure a death like that is not suicide before
handing out the money and that would have meant a thourogh
investigation.

Well, unless the facts of allergy exists, while alive, in that time
period, there would be no definitive report on the Codeine having this
response after death, during an autopsy.
We can do this now with the advancement in forensic medicine.

[Gary D]

<<<<Well, unless the facts of allergy exists, while alive, in that time
period, there would be no definitive report on the Codeine having this
response after death, during an autopsy.
We can do this now with the advancement in forensic medicine.>>>>

According to one of the doctors who performed the autopsy in the book
"The Death Of Elvis, What Really Happened", no histamine was found and
there was no evidence of anafalactic (sp?) shock. Marty has stated over
and over again that Elvis took codene all the time with no allergy. The
theory is put forth by Charles Thompson, one of the authors of "The
Death Of Elvis". The other author and Dan Warlick both discount this
theory.

[marty]

Post by Kathy
Does anyone know the real story behind Elvis's life insurance? Is it
true that no one collected it? My thoughts on this matter are that if
its true, that it wasn't cashed in, could it be that the company who
held the policy suspected that Elvis's death was a suicide? and by
fighting this, Graceland would have had to make the Autopsy public?
Another thing I can't figure out, is that there was a nurse on duty at
Graceland when Elvis died. Didn't she give someone some more pills to
give to Elvis? and didn't the nurse keep track of the pills Elvis was
givin each time, to make sure there wouldn't be a reaction to a certain
drug if combined with another? something like a log sheet maybe? Didn't
they find codene in Elvis's body at the time of death? and it was a
known fact that he was allergic to this? why would it even be in with
his other med's if he wasn't suppose to have it? I don't know very many
people that hang on to Medicines that they have a reaction to, they are
dumped down the toilet or something.
These are just a few of the things that bother me in regard to Elvis's
death. I don't like to ask this, but will. Does anyone out there think
that its possible Elvis commited suicide?

Once again I will state that Elvis was not allergic to Codeine unless he
became that way the last year. He took many an Emperin Codein through the
years.

Marty

[Kathy]

Post by marty

Post by Kathy
Does anyone know the real story behind Elvis's life insurance? Is it
true that no one collected it? My thoughts on this matter are that if
its true, that it wasn't cashed in, could it be that the company who
held the policy suspected that Elvis's death was a suicide? and by
fighting this, Graceland would have had to make the Autopsy public?
Another thing I can't figure out, is that there was a nurse on duty at
Graceland when Elvis died. Didn't she give someone some more pills to
give to Elvis? and didn't the nurse keep track of the pills Elvis was
givin each time, to make sure there wouldn't be a reaction to a certain
drug if combined with another? something like a log sheet maybe? Didn't
they find codene in Elvis's body at the time of death? and it was a
known fact that he was allergic to this? why would it even be in with
his other med's if he wasn't suppose to have it? I don't know very many
people that hang on to Medicines that they have a reaction to, they are
dumped down the toilet or something.
These are just a few of the things that bother me in regard to Elvis's
death. I don't like to ask this, but will. Does anyone out there think
that its possible Elvis commited suicide?

Once again I will state that Elvis was not allergic to Codeine unless he
became that way the last year. He took many an Emperin Codein through the
years.
Marty

You are missing the point! I don't give a damn if you want the money or
not, you have to take it! The Insuance companies have to clear their
records. They can't keep money that doesn't belong to them! Its called
balancing the books.It would be considered a gain to them, profit so to
speak. The only way they wouldn't have to pay, is if they thought there
was the possibility of a suicide. , then EPE, could have forfeited the
money, in stead of fighting the Insurance company over the cause of
death! I am not saying out right, that Elvis killed himself, but you
better come up with something better then, Oh they didn't need the
money, so why bother claiming it! We will probably never know for sure
what brought on the cardiac arrest. Was it accidental or intentional?
who knows for sure?

I heard once, that someone stated Elvis was found in his bed. That was
posted bynt one of his friends wasn't it?

I thought this was a place to debate Elvis's life and death? I didn't
know one person could step in when ever he wanted, and say change the
subject. Maybe we don't want to change the subject!

I haven't read any garbage book, by This David Stanley or whatever.
These are just my own toughts, which the last I checked this was/is a
free country!

Was you there Marty the day Elvis was found dead? Did you attend the
Autopsy? Was you privy to certain info.? Didn't think so.

[marty]

Post by Kathy

Post by marty

Post by Kathy
Does anyone know the real story behind Elvis's life insurance? Is it
true that no one collected it? My thoughts on this matter are that if
its true, that it wasn't cashed in, could it be that the company who
held the policy suspected that Elvis's death was a suicide? and by
fighting this, Graceland would have had to make the Autopsy public?
Another thing I can't figure out, is that there was a nurse on duty at
Graceland when Elvis died. Didn't she give someone some more pills to
give to Elvis? and didn't the nurse keep track of the pills Elvis was
givin each time, to make sure there wouldn't be a reaction to a certain
drug if combined with another? something like a log sheet maybe? Didn't
they find codene in Elvis's body at the time of death? and it was a
known fact that he was allergic to this? why would it even be in with
his other med's if he wasn't suppose to have it? I don't know very many
people that hang on to Medicines that they have a reaction to, they are
dumped down the toilet or something.
These are just a few of the things that bother me in regard to Elvis's
death. I don't like to ask this, but will. Does anyone out there think
that its possible Elvis commited suicide?

Once again I will state that Elvis was not allergic to Codeine unless he
became that way the last year. He took many an Emperin Codein through the
years.
Marty

You are missing the point! I don't give a damn if you want the money or
not, you have to take it! The Insuance companies have to clear their
records. They can't keep money that doesn't belong to them! Its called
balancing the books.It would be considered a gain to them, profit so to
speak. The only way they wouldn't have to pay, is if they thought there
was the possibility of a suicide. , then EPE, could have forfeited the
money, in stead of fighting the Insurance company over the cause of
death! I am not saying out right, that Elvis killed himself, but you
better come up with something better then, Oh they didn't need the
money, so why bother claiming it! We will probably never know for sure
what brought on the cardiac arrest. Was it accidental or intentional?
who knows for sure?
I heard once, that someone stated Elvis was found in his bed. That was
posted bynt one of his friends wasn't it?
I thought this was a place to debate Elvis's life and death? I didn't
know one person could step in when ever he wanted, and say change the
subject. Maybe we don't want to change the subject!
I haven't read any garbage book, by This David Stanley or whatever.
These are just my own toughts, which the last I checked this was/is a
free country!
Was you there Marty the day Elvis was found dead? Did you attend the
Autopsy? Was you privy to certain info.? Didn't think so.

Did I say anything relating to the insurance policy?

As for me not being there when he died, that is well known, but my second
hand information from someone who was extremely close to Elvis and me
during that time is a whole lot better and more accurate than your
uninformed speculation and opinion.

You're basically new here Kathy and as I said, this shit has been covered AD
NAUSEUM over the last few years. You're new here but all we've seen from
you so far are arguments. Is that what you're here for?

Marty

[Kathy]

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Post by Kathy
Does anyone know the real story behind Elvis's life insurance? Is it
true that no one collected it? My thoughts on this matter are that if
its true, that it wasn't cashed in, could it be that the company who
held the policy suspected that Elvis's death was a suicide? and by
fighting this, Graceland would have had to make the Autopsy public?
Another thing I can't figure out, is that there was a nurse on duty

at

Post by Kathy

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Graceland when Elvis died. Didn't she give someone some more pills to
give to Elvis? and didn't the nurse keep track of the pills Elvis was
givin each time, to make sure there wouldn't be a reaction to a

certain

Post by Kathy

Post by marty

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drug if combined with another? something like a log sheet maybe?

Didn't

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Post by Kathy
they find codene in Elvis's body at the time of death? and it was a
known fact that he was allergic to this? why would it even be in with
his other med's if he wasn't suppose to have it? I don't know very

many

Post by Kathy

Post by marty

Post by Kathy
people that hang on to Medicines that they have a reaction to, they

are

Post by Kathy

Post by marty

Post by Kathy
dumped down the toilet or something.
These are just a few of the things that bother me in regard to Elvis's
death. I don't like to ask this, but will. Does anyone out there think
that its possible Elvis commited suicide?

Once again I will state that Elvis was not allergic to Codeine unless he
became that way the last year. He took many an Emperin Codein through

the

Post by Kathy

Post by marty
years.
Marty

You are missing the point! I don't give a damn if you want the money or
not, you have to take it! The Insuance companies have to clear their
records. They can't keep money that doesn't belong to them! Its called
balancing the books.It would be considered a gain to them, profit so to
speak. The only way they wouldn't have to pay, is if they thought there
was the possibility of a suicide. , then EPE, could have forfeited the
money, in stead of fighting the Insurance company over the cause of
death! I am not saying out right, that Elvis killed himself, but you
better come up with something better then, Oh they didn't need the
money, so why bother claiming it! We will probably never know for sure
what brought on the cardiac arrest. Was it accidental or intentional?
who knows for sure?
I heard once, that someone stated Elvis was found in his bed. That was
posted bynt one of his friends wasn't it?
I thought this was a place to debate Elvis's life and death? I didn't
know one person could step in when ever he wanted, and say change the
subject. Maybe we don't want to change the subject!
I haven't read any garbage book, by This David Stanley or whatever.
These are just my own toughts, which the last I checked this was/is a
free country!
Was you there Marty the day Elvis was found dead? Did you attend the
Autopsy? Was you privy to certain info.? Didn't think so.

Did I say anything relating to the insurance policy?
As for me not being there when he died, that is well known, but my second
hand information from someone who was extremely close to Elvis and me
during that time is a whole lot better and more accurate than your
uninformed speculation and opinion.
You're basically new here Kathy and as I said, this shit has been covered AD
NAUSEUM over the last few years. You're new here but all we've seen from
you so far are arguments. Is that what you're here for?
Marty

Marty,
I'm not here to argue with you, or anyone else! Yes I am new here, so
there are a few things that us new comers might bring up, that you have
already discussed. I think we should be able to debate the facts here,
no matter if its an old subject, or a new one. If someone else has all
ready covered this, and they don't care to join in, I say, thats fine
too.

I don't recall arguing with others on this board. I might speak my
mind, but we are all entitled to that. I try and respect others
opinons, and I want them to respect mine in return. Is that asking too
much?

I like a mystery, and this is one, not just because its Elvis, it would
be interesting to know why anyone would not take money owed to them
from a life Insurance company, The money was paid in by Elvis! If he
didn't want them to have it, he wouldn't have paid for it! I stand by
this.

Its just like when utility, and phone companies have over charged
myself and others in this area before, I have received credit on my
account, or a check back. Its the same difference. all of these
Insurance companies, and businesses, have to keep their books balanced.
They don't care what you do with the check, just take it!

Second hand information doesn't impress me at all Marty! Anyone is
capable of lying to protect a close friends reputation.Just the facts
please. Oh never mind, none of us have the facts, now do we? Hmm, It
all second hand then.

[Genie]

Post by Kathy

Post by Kathy

Post by Kathy

Post by marty

Post by Kathy
Does anyone know the real story behind Elvis's life insurance? Is it
true that no one collected it? My thoughts on this matter are that if
its true, that it wasn't cashed in, could it be that the company who
held the policy suspected that Elvis's death was a suicide? and by
fighting this, Graceland would have had to make the Autopsy public?
Another thing I can't figure out, is that there was a nurse on duty

at

Post by Kathy

Post by marty

Post by Kathy
Graceland when Elvis died. Didn't she give someone some more pills to
give to Elvis? and didn't the nurse keep track of the pills Elvis was
givin each time, to make sure there wouldn't be a reaction to a

certain

Post by Kathy

Post by marty

Post by Kathy
drug if combined with another? something like a log sheet maybe?

Didn't

Post by Kathy

Post by marty

Post by Kathy
they find codene in Elvis's body at the time of death? and it was a
known fact that he was allergic to this? why would it even be in with
his other med's if he wasn't suppose to have it? I don't know very

many

Post by Kathy

Post by marty

Post by Kathy
people that hang on to Medicines that they have a reaction to, they

are

Post by Kathy

Post by marty

Post by Kathy
dumped down the toilet or something.
These are just a few of the things that bother me in regard to Elvis's
death. I don't like to ask this, but will. Does anyone out there think
that its possible Elvis commited suicide?

Once again I will state that Elvis was not allergic to Codeine unless he
became that way the last year. He took many an Emperin Codein through

the

Post by Kathy

Post by marty
years.
Marty

You are missing the point! I don't give a damn if you want the money or
not, you have to take it! The Insuance companies have to clear their
records. They can't keep money that doesn't belong to them! Its called
balancing the books.It would be considered a gain to them, profit so to
speak. The only way they wouldn't have to pay, is if they thought there
was the possibility of a suicide. , then EPE, could have forfeited the
money, in stead of fighting the Insurance company over the cause of
death! I am not saying out right, that Elvis killed himself, but you
better come up with something better then, Oh they didn't need the
money, so why bother claiming it! We will probably never know for sure
what brought on the cardiac arrest. Was it accidental or intentional?
who knows for sure?
I heard once, that someone stated Elvis was found in his bed. That was
posted bynt one of his friends wasn't it?
I thought this was a place to debate Elvis's life and death? I didn't
know one person could step in when ever he wanted, and say change the
subject. Maybe we don't want to change the subject!
I haven't read any garbage book, by This David Stanley or whatever.
These are just my own toughts, which the last I checked this was/is a
free country!
Was you there Marty the day Elvis was found dead? Did you attend the
Autopsy? Was you privy to certain info.? Didn't think so.

Did I say anything relating to the insurance policy?
As for me not being there when he died, that is well known, but my second
hand information from someone who was extremely close to Elvis and me
during that time is a whole lot better and more accurate than your
uninformed speculation and opinion.
You're basically new here Kathy and as I said, this shit has been covered AD
NAUSEUM over the last few years. You're new here but all we've seen from
you so far are arguments. Is that what you're here for?
Marty

Marty,
I'm not here to argue with you, or anyone else! Yes I am new here, so
there are a few things that us new comers might bring up, that you have
already discussed. I think we should be able to debate the facts here,
no matter if its an old subject, or a new one. If someone else has all
ready covered this, and they don't care to join in, I say, thats fine
too.
I don't recall arguing with others on this board. I might speak my
mind, but we are all entitled to that. I try and respect others
opinons, and I want them to respect mine in return. Is that asking too
much?
I like a mystery, and this is one, not just because its Elvis, it would
be interesting to know why anyone would not take money owed to them
from a life Insurance company, The money was paid in by Elvis! If he
didn't want them to have it, he wouldn't have paid for it! I stand by
this.
Its just like when utility, and phone companies have over charged
myself and others in this area before, I have received credit on my
account, or a check back. Its the same difference. all of these
Insurance companies, and businesses, have to keep their books balanced.
They don't care what you do with the check, just take it!
Second hand information doesn't impress me at all Marty! Anyone is
capable of lying to protect a close friends reputation.Just the facts
please. Oh never mind, none of us have the facts, now do we? Hmm, It
all second hand then.

Kathy,
If you can believe this, I have heard it said that Elvis was
"Murdered."
There is a very long ugly list of what happened, and why. It is in fact
a mystery we will never be sure about. When people come forward, they
are quickly removed or classified as kooks.
I think someone needs to give the check to Elvis' favorite charity.

[I***@aol.com]

Post by Kathy

Post by marty

Post by Kathy
Does anyone know the real story behind Elvis's life insurance? Is it
true that no one collected it? My thoughts on this matter are that if
its true, that it wasn't cashed in, could it be that the company who
held the policy suspected that Elvis's death was a suicide? and by
fighting this, Graceland would have had to make the Autopsy public?
Another thing I can't figure out, is that there was a nurse on duty at
Graceland when Elvis died. Didn't she give someone some more pills to
give to Elvis? and didn't the nurse keep track of the pills Elvis was
givin each time, to make sure there wouldn't be a reaction to a certain
drug if combined with another? something like a log sheet maybe? Didn't
they find codene in Elvis's body at the time of death? and it was a
known fact that he was allergic to this? why would it even be in with
his other med's if he wasn't suppose to have it? I don't know very many
people that hang on to Medicines that they have a reaction to, they are
dumped down the toilet or something.
These are just a few of the things that bother me in regard to Elvis's
death. I don't like to ask this, but will. Does anyone out there think
that its possible Elvis commited suicide?

Once again I will state that Elvis was not allergic to Codeine unless he
became that way the last year. He took many an Emperin Codein through the
years.
Marty

You are missing the point! I don't give a damn if you want the money or
not, you have to take it! The Insuance companies have to clear their
records. They can't keep money that doesn't belong to them! Its called
balancing the books.It would be considered a gain to them, profit so to
speak. The only way they wouldn't have to pay, is if they thought there
was the possibility of a suicide. , then EPE, could have forfeited the
money, in stead of fighting the Insurance company over the cause of
death! I am not saying out right, that Elvis killed himself, but you
better come up with something better then, Oh they didn't need the
money, so why bother claiming it! We will probably never know for sure
what brought on the cardiac arrest. Was it accidental or intentional?
who knows for sure?
I heard once, that someone stated Elvis was found in his bed. That was
posted bynt one of his friends wasn't it?
I thought this was a place to debate Elvis's life and death? I didn't
know one person could step in when ever he wanted, and say change the
subject. Maybe we don't want to change the subject!
I haven't read any garbage book, by This David Stanley or whatever.
These are just my own toughts, which the last I checked this was/is a
free country!
Was you there Marty the day Elvis was found dead? Did you attend the
Autopsy? Was you privy to certain info.? Didn't think so.

There are different laws in different states, so without knowing what
the Tennessee statutes were in 1977 it's hard to know what the
insurance company had to do. I know in my state, until the company has
received an application accompanied by an official death certificate,
they don't have to do a damn thing. And if they for some reason are
unable to give it to the intended beneficiary or it is not claimed,
they can, and this is optional, turn it over the the Department of
Revenue for the state, and they keep it for a certain period of time in
case someone eventually comes forward, then the money is forfeited to
the state if that doesn't happen. But if nobody applies for it, the
insurance company can keep it as long as they want here.

If indeed there was a policy, it is odd that it wasn't claimed. It is
also unusual that other companies Elvis was involved with didn't have
policies as well...for example, RCA Records, RCA Records Tours, his
publishing companies, Colonel Parker's office, any number of interests
that could have depended on Elvis' being alive for their income might
have taken out life insurance...in fact, I believe some reports
suggested RCA was relieved because they needed revenue badly and they
did indeed have a large policy on Elvis. So who knows? I suspect
policy proceeds were claimed, and the idea that they weren't is
probably just bullshit to keep the suicide rumors alive. But in any
event, I just feel like this kind of thing should be private.

Garry

[mm]

Several states, if not all, publish a list of "unclaimed treasure" on line. I checked Tennessee's list and did not find anything where I would expect it to be. However, I am sure there are things that are not reported.

Just recently, my family located an unclaimed treasure for my mother and a year or so ago, my name was listed.

It would be interesting to know if Tennessee required unclaimed insurance policies to be listed.

mm

Post by Kathy

Post by marty

Post by Kathy
Does anyone know the real story behind Elvis's life insurance? Is it
true that no one collected it? My thoughts on this matter are that if
its true, that it wasn't cashed in, could it be that the company who
held the policy suspected that Elvis's death was a suicide? and by
fighting this, Graceland would have had to make the Autopsy public?
Another thing I can't figure out, is that there was a nurse on duty at
Graceland when Elvis died. Didn't she give someone some more pills to
give to Elvis? and didn't the nurse keep track of the pills Elvis was
givin each time, to make sure there wouldn't be a reaction to a certain
drug if combined with another? something like a log sheet maybe? Didn't
they find codene in Elvis's body at the time of death? and it was a
known fact that he was allergic to this? why would it even be in with
his other med's if he wasn't suppose to have it? I don't know very many
people that hang on to Medicines that they have a reaction to, they are
dumped down the toilet or something.
These are just a few of the things that bother me in regard to Elvis's
death. I don't like to ask this, but will. Does anyone out there think
that its possible Elvis commited suicide?

Once again I will state that Elvis was not allergic to Codeine unless he
became that way the last year. He took many an Emperin Codein through the
years.
Marty

You are missing the point! I don't give a damn if you want the money or
not, you have to take it! The Insuance companies have to clear their
records. They can't keep money that doesn't belong to them! Its called
balancing the books.It would be considered a gain to them, profit so to
speak. The only way they wouldn't have to pay, is if they thought there
was the possibility of a suicide. , then EPE, could have forfeited the
money, in stead of fighting the Insurance company over the cause of
death! I am not saying out right, that Elvis killed himself, but you
better come up with something better then, Oh they didn't need the
money, so why bother claiming it! We will probably never know for sure
what brought on the cardiac arrest. Was it accidental or intentional?
who knows for sure?
I heard once, that someone stated Elvis was found in his bed. That was
posted bynt one of his friends wasn't it?
I thought this was a place to debate Elvis's life and death? I didn't
know one person could step in when ever he wanted, and say change the
subject. Maybe we don't want to change the subject!
I haven't read any garbage book, by This David Stanley or whatever.
These are just my own toughts, which the last I checked this was/is a
free country!
Was you there Marty the day Elvis was found dead? Did you attend the
Autopsy? Was you privy to certain info.? Didn't think so.

There are different laws in different states, so without knowing what
the Tennessee statutes were in 1977 it's hard to know what the
insurance company had to do. I know in my state, until the company has
received an application accompanied by an official death certificate,
they don't have to do a damn thing. And if they for some reason are
unable to give it to the intended beneficiary or it is not claimed,
they can, and this is optional, turn it over the the Department of
Revenue for the state, and they keep it for a certain period of time in
case someone eventually comes forward, then the money is forfeited to
the state if that doesn't happen. But if nobody applies for it, the
insurance company can keep it as long as they want here.

If indeed there was a policy, it is odd that it wasn't claimed. It is
also unusual that other companies Elvis was involved with didn't have
policies as well...for example, RCA Records, RCA Records Tours, his
publishing companies, Colonel Parker's office, any number of interests
that could have depended on Elvis' being alive for their income might
have taken out life insurance...in fact, I believe some reports
suggested RCA was relieved because they needed revenue badly and they
did indeed have a large policy on Elvis. So who knows? I suspect
policy proceeds were claimed, and the idea that they weren't is
probably just bullshit to keep the suicide rumors alive. But in any
event, I just feel like this kind of thing should be private.

Garry

[I***@aol.com]

I decided to try google this for the hell of it...here is something
that popped up...who is this self-proclaimed Elvis expert Dora?

Garry


Expert: Dora Malone
Date: 1/2/2005
Subject: The money

Question
Hello there. I was wondering if you could settle a debate that's been
going on between me and my mum for years now. Personally, i'm not
really a "fan" of Elvis', although I like a few songs. Barry Manilow's
more my scene (unusual for someone who's 18, but there you go). Anyway
my mums the elvis fan in the family and she reckons that shortly before
Elvis "died" he withdrew 1 milion dollars from his bank account.
Therefore she concludes in the existence of a conspiracy theory and
that he is not "dead" and is living it up from the interest. I, on the
other hand, although am also a lover of conspiracy theories, believe
that he was planning to use this money for some other random purpose
and did in fact die. So, could you possibly settle the dispute and tell
me (us) the reason as to why exactly Elvis did withdraw that 1 million.

Many thanks for your time

Answer
Hi there Carmel,
Thanks for contacting me. The story about the 1 million dollars has
never been proven so it remains a mystery as to if it actually happen
or not. There are alot of mysterys in the death of Elvis Presley. Just
like the one about the insurance policy never being cashed. I was
always told that Elvis never had life insurance on himself, that the
record company's had it. So there is another one. I guess we fans are
not really suppose to understand. If your mother is a huge Elvis fan
and hasn't been to Memphis. She really should go. She would really love
it. And if your mom would like to join my Elvis fan club online, we
would love to have her. It is 100% free and she could win some great
prizes.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elvis_express

Thanks again Carmel,

Dora

[I***@aol.com]

And here is a link to more nonsense from something called the "Presley
Commission." No wonder people think Elvis fans are dumb rednecks, when
crap like this is taken seriously. Maybe most of them are....

http://www.elvisinfonet.com/aitcheson.html


And then there is this silliness...

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tips/getAttraction.php?offset=0&tip_AttractionNo=%3D776


And there is this...

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/sights/sightstory.php?tip_AttrId=%3D12549

And what's the deal with Jimmy Velvet? Did Vernon really offer to sell
him 62 jumpsuits at $500 a piece? How did he know Vernon? Is that
dumb name really his? Would anybody pay $10 for his autograph? Sad...

Garry

[Mr. T]

the last I checked this was/is a free country!

The last time I checked this was/is usenet, which is global.

I heard once, that someone stated Elvis was found in his bed. That was
posted bynt one of his friends wasn't it?

As far as I can remember, that's correct. I might be wrong, but I believe
Joe Esposito said so shortly after Elvis was announced dead. However, this
statement was, I believe, quickly corrected by Dr. Jerry Francisco during
the press-conference on the 16th. Perhaps Dr. Francisco already had made
this statement before Esposito said he was found in the bedroom. Can't
remember, but on the 17th both the Memphis Press-Scimitar and the Commercial
Appeal wrote that Elvis was found in the bathroom. There was however some
inaccuracy on who found him, the P-S reported that it was Al Strada while
C-A reported it was Esposito. The P-S did also cite Dr. Nick saying "Miss
Alden was the last person to see Presley as she left the home at 9 a.m.
yesterday". I believe someone got the idea that things would "look better"
if it didn't got out that Ginger spent the night at Graceland.

I like a mystery, and this is one, not just because its Elvis, it
would be interesting to know why anyone would not take money owed to
them from a life Insurance company, The money was paid in by Elvis!
If he didn't want them to have it, he wouldn't have paid for it! I
stand by this.

Do you know for a *fact* that Elvis' policy (if he had one) wasn't cashed
in? Please elaborate.

About the insurance, Elvis allegedly had a policy with the Lloyds of London.
At least, that's what he said in a phone conversation with Red West, October
(probably on the 12th) 1976. Elvis, "I just had an absolute complete
physical head to toe, in the last, ah, two weeks.(..) One of those things
that is required by Lloyds of London, the insurance office".

But as far as I understand, Lloyd's is an insurance market, not a single
insurance company. According to their website, Lloyd's is the world's
leading insurance market providing specialist insurance services to
businesses.

Perhaps you can help shed some lights on this life insurance thing, Marty?
--
T.

[marty]

I don't know that Elvis even had an insurance policy at that time. He very
well could have said that to counteract Red's remark that he didn't sound
good and also coverup the fact that he was blown out of his mind when they
were talking which Red detected when they talked. There were too many times
that Elvis and some of us were in that condition and we all knew the sound.

The Lloyd's of London remark could have been what Elvis thought of at the
spur of the moment because Lloyd's was what movie studios usually used to
insure feature actors in the movies they produced.

Since a couple of people here sometimes email EPE with questions, why don't
they email them and ask if there was a policy and if it was in fact, cashed
in.

Marty

Post by Mr. T

the last I checked this was/is a free country!

The last time I checked this was/is usenet, which is global.

I heard once, that someone stated Elvis was found in his bed. That was
posted bynt one of his friends wasn't it?

As far as I can remember, that's correct. I might be wrong, but I believe
Joe Esposito said so shortly after Elvis was announced dead. However, this
statement was, I believe, quickly corrected by Dr. Jerry Francisco during
the press-conference on the 16th. Perhaps Dr. Francisco already had made
this statement before Esposito said he was found in the bedroom. Can't
remember, but on the 17th both the Memphis Press-Scimitar and the Commercial
Appeal wrote that Elvis was found in the bathroom. There was however some
inaccuracy on who found him, the P-S reported that it was Al Strada while
C-A reported it was Esposito. The P-S did also cite Dr. Nick saying "Miss
Alden was the last person to see Presley as she left the home at 9 a.m.
yesterday". I believe someone got the idea that things would "look better"
if it didn't got out that Ginger spent the night at Graceland.

I like a mystery, and this is one, not just because its Elvis, it
would be interesting to know why anyone would not take money owed to
them from a life Insurance company, The money was paid in by Elvis!
If he didn't want them to have it, he wouldn't have paid for it! I
stand by this.

Do you know for a *fact* that Elvis' policy (if he had one) wasn't cashed
in? Please elaborate.
About the insurance, Elvis allegedly had a policy with the Lloyds of London.
At least, that's what he said in a phone conversation with Red West, October
(probably on the 12th) 1976. Elvis, "I just had an absolute complete
physical head to toe, in the last, ah, two weeks.(..) One of those things
that is required by Lloyds of London, the insurance office".
But as far as I understand, Lloyd's is an insurance market, not a single
insurance company. According to their website, Lloyd's is the world's
leading insurance market providing specialist insurance services to
businesses.
Perhaps you can help shed some lights on this life insurance thing, Marty?
--
T.

[mm]

And, it could well be that Elvis did have a physical for a policy that someone else was taking out on him (such as RCA).

As for mailing EPE and asking, I have found that since Lisa sold most of EPE they do not answer my e-mails. Perhaps someone else can get them to do so.

mm
"marty" <***@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:VwcZg.29923$***@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
I don't know that Elvis even had an insurance policy at that time. He very
well could have said that to counteract Red's remark that he didn't sound
good and also coverup the fact that he was blown out of his mind when they
were talking which Red detected when they talked. There were too many times
that Elvis and some of us were in that condition and we all knew the sound.

The Lloyd's of London remark could have been what Elvis thought of at the
spur of the moment because Lloyd's was what movie studios usually used to
insure feature actors in the movies they produced.

Since a couple of people here sometimes email EPE with questions, why don't
they email them and ask if there was a policy and if it was in fact, cashed
in.

Marty

Post by Mr. T

the last I checked this was/is a free country!

The last time I checked this was/is usenet, which is global.

I heard once, that someone stated Elvis was found in his bed. That was
posted bynt one of his friends wasn't it?

As far as I can remember, that's correct. I might be wrong, but I believe
Joe Esposito said so shortly after Elvis was announced dead. However, this
statement was, I believe, quickly corrected by Dr. Jerry Francisco during
the press-conference on the 16th. Perhaps Dr. Francisco already had made
this statement before Esposito said he was found in the bedroom. Can't
remember, but on the 17th both the Memphis Press-Scimitar and the Commercial
Appeal wrote that Elvis was found in the bathroom. There was however some
inaccuracy on who found him, the P-S reported that it was Al Strada while
C-A reported it was Esposito. The P-S did also cite Dr. Nick saying "Miss
Alden was the last person to see Presley as she left the home at 9 a.m.
yesterday". I believe someone got the idea that things would "look better"
if it didn't got out that Ginger spent the night at Graceland.

I like a mystery, and this is one, not just because its Elvis, it
would be interesting to know why anyone would not take money owed to
them from a life Insurance company, The money was paid in by Elvis!
If he didn't want them to have it, he wouldn't have paid for it! I
stand by this.

Do you know for a *fact* that Elvis' policy (if he had one) wasn't cashed
in? Please elaborate.
About the insurance, Elvis allegedly had a policy with the Lloyds of London.
At least, that's what he said in a phone conversation with Red West, October
(probably on the 12th) 1976. Elvis, "I just had an absolute complete
physical head to toe, in the last, ah, two weeks.(..) One of those things
that is required by Lloyds of London, the insurance office".
But as far as I understand, Lloyd's is an insurance market, not a single
insurance company. According to their website, Lloyd's is the world's
leading insurance market providing specialist insurance services to
businesses.
Perhaps you can help shed some lights on this life insurance thing, Marty?
--
T.

[Mr. T]

Post by marty
I don't know that Elvis even had an insurance policy at that time.
He very well could have said that to counteract Red's remark that he
didn't sound good and also coverup the fact that he was blown out of
his mind when they were talking which Red detected when they talked.
There were too many times that Elvis and some of us were in that
condition and we all knew the sound.
The Lloyd's of London remark could have been what Elvis thought of at
the spur of the moment because Lloyd's was what movie studios usually
used to insure feature actors in the movies they produced.

Thanks Marty. Your theory make sense. In any case, I'm convinced there's a
rational explanation to this so-called "mystery".

Post by marty

Post by mm
And, it could well be that Elvis did have a physical for a policy
that someone else was taking out on him (such as RCA).

I have no idea on how these things work. Marty, you know all the details on
what's going on in the recording business, could this be another explanation
to the physical as mentioned by Elvis in the phone conversation?

And what about Concert West, perhaps they had a policy on Elvis while he was
on tour. In March 1977 when Elvis canceled the last 4 shows of the tour, Tom
Hulett said to Elvis (according to Larry Geller), "We have to get you to
Memphis immediately and cancel the rest of the tour. This will be a major
news story that will hit the wires tonight. We have to think about the
insurance costs, and all the other costs, and the refunds. The next shows
are sold out (..)". Also, I've read somewhere else that the insurance when
on tour would only apply if, when canceling (a) show(s), if Elvis was
checked into a hospital.

Of course, here we are not talking standard private life policy, but
insurance services to businesses, just as described (as I understand it) on
Lloyd's website.
--
T.

[marty]

What Tom was talking about was business insurance, liability insurance,
etc.. if Elvis had died I can assure you Concerts West would have been the
beneficiary not EPE as they paid for the policy.

Marty

Post by Mr. T

Post by marty
I don't know that Elvis even had an insurance policy at that time.
He very well could have said that to counteract Red's remark that he
didn't sound good and also coverup the fact that he was blown out of
his mind when they were talking which Red detected when they talked.
There were too many times that Elvis and some of us were in that
condition and we all knew the sound.
The Lloyd's of London remark could have been what Elvis thought of at
the spur of the moment because Lloyd's was what movie studios usually
used to insure feature actors in the movies they produced.

Thanks Marty. Your theory make sense. In any case, I'm convinced there's a
rational explanation to this so-called "mystery".

Post by marty

Post by mm
And, it could well be that Elvis did have a physical for a policy
that someone else was taking out on him (such as RCA).

I have no idea on how these things work. Marty, you know all the details on
what's going on in the recording business, could this be another explanation
to the physical as mentioned by Elvis in the phone conversation?
And what about Concert West, perhaps they had a policy on Elvis while he was
on tour. In March 1977 when Elvis canceled the last 4 shows of the tour, Tom
Hulett said to Elvis (according to Larry Geller), "We have to get you to
Memphis immediately and cancel the rest of the tour. This will be a major
news story that will hit the wires tonight. We have to think about the
insurance costs, and all the other costs, and the refunds. The next shows
are sold out (..)". Also, I've read somewhere else that the insurance when
on tour would only apply if, when canceling (a) show(s), if Elvis was
checked into a hospital.
Of course, here we are not talking standard private life policy, but
insurance services to businesses, just as described (as I understand it) on
Lloyd's website.
--
T.

[Mr. T]

Post by marty
What Tom was talking about was business insurance, liability
insurance, etc.. if Elvis had died I can assure you Concerts West
would have been the beneficiary not EPE as they paid for the policy.
Marty

Yes, but wouldn't it be correct to assume that Elvis might need to do a
physical every now and then for the Concert West's insurance to stay valid?
I seem to remember reading somewhere that a physical was imperative every
other year, but can't remember where I read it, or if I remember it
correctly.
--
T.

Post by marty

Post by Mr. T

Post by marty
I don't know that Elvis even had an insurance policy at that time.
He very well could have said that to counteract Red's remark that he
didn't sound good and also coverup the fact that he was blown out of
his mind when they were talking which Red detected when they talked.
There were too many times that Elvis and some of us were in that
condition and we all knew the sound.
The Lloyd's of London remark could have been what Elvis thought of
at the spur of the moment because Lloyd's was what movie studios
usually used to insure feature actors in the movies they produced.

Thanks Marty. Your theory make sense. In any case, I'm convinced
there's a rational explanation to this so-called "mystery".

Post by marty

Post by mm
And, it could well be that Elvis did have a physical for a policy
that someone else was taking out on him (such as RCA).

I have no idea on how these things work. Marty, you know all the
details on what's going on in the recording business, could this be
another explanation to the physical as mentioned by Elvis in the
phone conversation?
And what about Concert West, perhaps they had a policy on Elvis
while he was on tour. In March 1977 when Elvis canceled the last 4
shows of the tour, Tom Hulett said to Elvis (according to Larry
Geller), "We have to get you to Memphis immediately and cancel the
rest of the tour. This will be a major news story that will hit the
wires tonight. We have to think about the insurance costs, and all
the other costs, and the refunds. The next shows are sold out (..)".
Also, I've read somewhere else that the insurance when on tour would
only apply if, when canceling (a) show(s), if Elvis was checked into
a hospital.
Of course, here we are not talking standard private life policy, but
insurance services to businesses, just as described (as I understand
it) on Lloyd's website.
--
T.

[marty]

Post by Mr. T

Post by marty
What Tom was talking about was business insurance, liability
insurance, etc.. if Elvis had died I can assure you Concerts West
would have been the beneficiary not EPE as they paid for the policy.
Marty

Yes, but wouldn't it be correct to assume that Elvis might need to do a
physical every now and then for the Concert West's insurance to stay valid?
I seem to remember reading somewhere that a physical was imperative every
other year, but can't remember where I read it, or if I remember it
correctly.
--
T.

He could have but I would be willing to bet that when he said that to Red it
was an excuse because he sounded blown out of his mind on the phone.

He knew the condition he was in and he knew Red could tell because of the
slurring of his words and the way he sounded. It was hard for Elvis to admit
it when he was caught. As usual, he was just fooling himself.

Marty

Post by Mr. T

Post by marty

Post by Mr. T

Post by marty
I don't know that Elvis even had an insurance policy at that time.
He very well could have said that to counteract Red's remark that he
didn't sound good and also coverup the fact that he was blown out of
his mind when they were talking which Red detected when they talked.
There were too many times that Elvis and some of us were in that
condition and we all knew the sound.
The Lloyd's of London remark could have been what Elvis thought of
at the spur of the moment because Lloyd's was what movie studios
usually used to insure feature actors in the movies they produced.

Thanks Marty. Your theory make sense. In any case, I'm convinced
there's a rational explanation to this so-called "mystery".

Post by marty

Post by mm
And, it could well be that Elvis did have a physical for a policy
that someone else was taking out on him (such as RCA).

I have no idea on how these things work. Marty, you know all the
details on what's going on in the recording business, could this be
another explanation to the physical as mentioned by Elvis in the
phone conversation?
And what about Concert West, perhaps they had a policy on Elvis
while he was on tour. In March 1977 when Elvis canceled the last 4
shows of the tour, Tom Hulett said to Elvis (according to Larry
Geller), "We have to get you to Memphis immediately and cancel the
rest of the tour. This will be a major news story that will hit the
wires tonight. We have to think about the insurance costs, and all
the other costs, and the refunds. The next shows are sold out (..)".
Also, I've read somewhere else that the insurance when on tour would
only apply if, when canceling (a) show(s), if Elvis was checked into
a hospital.
Of course, here we are not talking standard private life policy, but
insurance services to businesses, just as described (as I understand
it) on Lloyd's website.
--
T.

[Mr. T]

Post by marty

Post by Mr. T

Post by marty
What Tom was talking about was business insurance, liability
insurance, etc.. if Elvis had died I can assure you Concerts West
would have been the beneficiary not EPE as they paid for the policy.
Marty

Yes, but wouldn't it be correct to assume that Elvis might need to
do a physical every now and then for the Concert West's insurance to
stay valid? I seem to remember reading somewhere that a physical was
imperative every other year, but can't remember where I read it, or
if I remember it correctly.
--
T.

He could have but I would be willing to bet that when he said that to
Red it was an excuse because he sounded blown out of his mind on the
phone.
He knew the condition he was in and he knew Red could tell because of
the slurring of his words and the way he sounded. It was hard for
Elvis to admit it when he was caught. As usual, he was just fooling
himself.
Marty

Thank you.
--
T.

Post by marty

Post by Mr. T

Post by marty

Post by Mr. T

Post by marty
I don't know that Elvis even had an insurance policy at that time.
He very well could have said that to counteract Red's remark that
he didn't sound good and also coverup the fact that he was blown
out of his mind when they were talking which Red detected when
they talked. There were too many times that Elvis and some of us
were in that condition and we all knew the sound.
The Lloyd's of London remark could have been what Elvis thought of
at the spur of the moment because Lloyd's was what movie studios
usually used to insure feature actors in the movies they produced.

Thanks Marty. Your theory make sense. In any case, I'm convinced
there's a rational explanation to this so-called "mystery".

Post by marty

Post by mm
And, it could well be that Elvis did have a physical for a policy
that someone else was taking out on him (such as RCA).

I have no idea on how these things work. Marty, you know all the
details on what's going on in the recording business, could this be
another explanation to the physical as mentioned by Elvis in the
phone conversation?
And what about Concert West, perhaps they had a policy on Elvis
while he was on tour. In March 1977 when Elvis canceled the last 4
shows of the tour, Tom Hulett said to Elvis (according to Larry
Geller), "We have to get you to Memphis immediately and cancel the
rest of the tour. This will be a major news story that will hit the
wires tonight. We have to think about the insurance costs, and all
the other costs, and the refunds. The next shows are sold out
(..)". Also, I've read somewhere else that the insurance when on
tour would only apply if, when canceling (a) show(s), if Elvis was
checked into a hospital.
Of course, here we are not talking standard private life policy,
but insurance services to businesses, just as described (as I
understand it) on Lloyd's website.
--
T.

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Hay dum ass look i have been doing this for 28 years this is not right

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Post by Kathy
Does anyone know the real story behind Elvis's life insurance? Is it
true that no one collected it? My thoughts on this matter are that if
its true, that it wasn't cashed in, could it be that the company who
held the policy suspected that Elvis's death was a suicide? and by
fighting this, Graceland would have had to make the Autopsy public?
Another thing I can't figure out, is that there was a nurse on duty at
Graceland when Elvis died. Didn't she give someone some more pills to
give to Elvis? and didn't the nurse keep track of the pills Elvis was
givin each time, to make sure there wouldn't be a reaction to a certain
drug if combined with another? something like a log sheet maybe? Didn't
they find codene in Elvis's body at the time of death? and it was a
known fact that he was allergic to this? why would it even be in with
his other med's if he wasn't suppose to have it? I don't know very many
people that hang on to Medicines that they have a reaction to, they are
dumped down the toilet or something.
These are just a few of the things that bother me in regard to Elvis's
death. I don't like to ask this, but will. Does anyone out there think
that its possible Elvis commited suicide?

The insurance policy is a total red herring. Elvis NEVER took out an insurance policy with Lloyds of London. He was going to, but decided against it. Lloyds has stated this on many occasions.

So there was no insurance policy, and if there was no insurance policy, no insurance money could have been claimed.